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10 Reasons why Jesus is not God
By Sami Zaatari
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1- Jesus is not all knowing:



Mark 24: 32-36:





32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender,
and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise
ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at
the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass
away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour
knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only



God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. This alone is
enough to prove that Jesus is not God. Also note the verse says ONLY
the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus.

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2- Jesus never said I am God.



Is this a coincidence? I think not. If you make a claim on someone,
then you would expect that someone to back your claim up. If I claim
somebody is a king, you would expect that king to say he is a king, at
least once. In the OT God says he is God several times, why not once
with Jesus in the NT? Did God change his ways? I think not, since the
OT says God does not change. Here are the passages from the OT where
God says he is God:



Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and
multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings
shall come out of thy loins



Gen 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the God of thy father: fear not to go
down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:



Exd 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak
unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye
shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD your
God.



Exd 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.



Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.



Psa 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I [am] God, [even] thy God.



Psa 81:10 I [am] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.



Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I
[am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I
will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.



Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden
riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which
call [thee] by thy name, [am] the God of Israel.



Isa 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:



Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me,



Jer 32:27 Behold, I [am] the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?



Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and
that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people,
neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel,
neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know
that I [am] the Lord GOD.



Eze 20:19 I [am] the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;



Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.



Eze 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye
shall bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I [am] the
Lord GOD.



So as we can see, God is not shy to say I am God. SO if Jesus is God,
then how come he never said it once like the God of the OT? This is not
a coincidence.




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3- Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to trust the son of man:





The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man:



Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds
of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his]
head.



Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to
forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up
thy bed, and go unto thine house



Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.



Luk 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.



Luk 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be
rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and
be raised the third day.



Jhn 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.





The Old Testament tells us not to put our trust in the son of man:



Psalms 146:



1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.
2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.
3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.





So note, Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to put our trust
in the son of man; therefore we cannot place our trust in Jesus so he
cannot be God. The OT is basically saying that you shouldn’t put your
trust in men as you do with God, so hence we cannot put our trust in
Jesus in the same way we do with God since Jesus is just a man, and he
cannot really save us. So hence Jesus cannot be God.



1- Jesus is the son of man

2- The OT tells us not to put our trust in the son of man

3- We cannot put our trust in Jesus as we do with God

4- Jesus is not God



The OT also tells us that there is no help in the son of man, therefore
this means Jesus cannot help anybody, therefore he is not God since God
can help all. So we cannot place our trust in Jesus, nor can he help
us, therefore he cannot be God according to the OT.


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4- Jesus was GIVEN power and authority, he did not own it.



As we all know, God is all-powerful and is independent, he needs no
help from anybody. However so this is not the case with Jesus, unlike
God, Jesus needs help from God, unlike God, Jesus does not own any
power or any authority, rather it is given to him from God.



Jhn 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;



John 17:6-8: 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou
gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me;
and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that ALL THINGS
whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them
the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have
known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that
thou didst send me





So as we can see, Jesus GIVEN everything he had! This all included
miracle, doctrine etc. Basically Jesus did not do anything of his own,
he never performed a miracle by his own power, he was given the
miracle. He never taught anything of his own, rather he was taught by
God and spoke what God told him to speak.



Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent
me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should
speak.



Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that
sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have
heard of him.



Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.



So everything Jesus had was from God, from the Gospel to his miracles.
God needs no one to give him power, God needs no one to tell him what
to do, therefore Jesus is not God.



I challenge any Christian to bring me one single miracle Jesus
performed on his own, just one. The Christian will never be able to
meet this challenge.
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5- Jesus denied being good in the sense that God is good.



If Jesus is God one would expect him to admit he is good in the sense
that God is good, meaning perfect. However when we read the Bible we
see that Jesus denies being good in the sense that God is good which is
perfect. Here are the passages:



Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?



Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is]
none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life,
keep the commandments.



So note, the man calls Jesus good, Jesus tells the man there is non
good but God. Obviously Jesus referred to God as someone else, which
also proves Jesus isn’t God. However the main importance of the
passages is that Jesus denies being Good in the way God is good, which
is to be perfect.

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6- Jesus could not save anyone



The Bible also claims that Jesus cannot save anyone! Here is the passage:



Hebrews 5:1-8: 1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained
for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and
sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on
them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed
with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so
also for himself, to offer for sins. 4 And no man taketh this honour
unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also
Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that
said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he
saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order
of Melchisedec. 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up
prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that
was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he
suffered





So Jesus cried to the one who could save him from death, this means
Jesus could not save himself from death, therefore this also means
Jesus cannot save anyone else from death. How can Jesus be God when he
cannot save anyone? This also shows that Jesus is not in control of
life and death, God however is in control of everything, including life
and death:



And they have taken besides Him gods, who do not create anything while
they are themselves created, and they control not for themselves any
harm or profit, and they control not death nor life, nor raising (the
dead) to life. S. 25:3 Shakir

This verse is from the Noble Quran, I guess this sums it all up doesn’t it?


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7- Jesus’ believers did NOT believe he was God neither



One of the greatest Christian myths is that Jesus’ followers believed
he was God. However so, this is not true, the Bible says otherwise:



Matthew
Chapter 16



13-14



13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his
disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And
they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and
others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets



So as we can see, the believers out of the population did not take
Jesus as God, they took him for a great man, such as John the Baptist,
or Elias, or some others. None of them said he is God. Now let us read
on and see what his own disciples took him for:



15-20



15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter
answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which
is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and
upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not
prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the
kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be
bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should
tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.



So note, now Jesus asks his disciples about what they take him to be
for, they respond by saying he is the SON OF GOD, Jesus agrees with
them and tells them tell no man I am the Christ. So note, Jesus’
disciples do not say you are God, Jesus himself does not say he is God.




Now both the son of God and the term Christ do not mean God. They never
have, and never will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of
Messiah is not God, and the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did
not believe the Messiah would be God:



The predominant Jewish understanding of moshiach ("the messiah") is based on the writings of Maimonides, (the Rambam). His views on the messiah are discussed in his Mishneh Torah, his 14 volume compendium of Jewish law, in the section Hilkhot Melakhim Umilchamoteihem, chapter 11. Maimonides writes:

"The anointed King ("HaMelekh HaMoshiach") is destined to stand up and restore the Davidic Kingdom to its antiquity, to the first sovereignty. He will build the Temple in Jerusalem and
gather the strayed ones of Israel together. All laws will return in his
days as they were before: Sacrificial offerings are offered and the
Sabbatical years and Jubilees are kept, according to all its precepts
that are mentioned in the Torah.
Whoever does not believe in him, or whoever does not wait for his
coming, not only does he defy the other prophets, but also the Torah
and our Rabbi Moses. For the Torah testifies about him, thus: "And the
Lord Your God will return your returned ones and will show you mercy
and will return and gather you... If your strayed one shall be at the
edge of Heaven... And He shall bring you" etc." (Deuteronomy 30:3-5).



"These words that are explicitly stated in the Torah, encompass and
include all the words spoken by all the prophets. In the section of
Torah referring to Bala'am,
too, it is stated, and there he prophesied about the two anointed ones:
The first anointed one is David, who saved Israel from all their
oppressors; and the last anointed one will stand up from among his
descendants and saves Israel in the end. This is what he says (Numbers
24:17-18): "I see him but not now" - this is David; "I behold him but
not near" - this is the Anointed King. "A star has shot forth from
Jacob" - this is David; "And a brand will rise up from Israel" - this
is the Anointed King. "And he will smash the edges of Moab"
- This is David, as it states: "...And he struck Moab and measured them
by rope" (II Samuel 8:2); "And he will uproot all Children of Seth" -
this is the Anointed King, of whom it is stated: "And his reign shall
be from sea to sea" (Zechariah 9:10). "And Edom shall be possessed" -
this is David, thus: "And Edom
became David's as slaves etc." (II Samuel 8:6); "And Se'ir shall be
possessed by its enemy" - this is the Anointed King, thus: "And saviors
shall go up Mount Zion to judge Mount Esau, and the Kingdom shall be
the Lord's" (Obadiah 1:21)."



"And by the Towns of Refuge it states: "And if the Lord your God will
widen up your territory... you shall add on for you another three
towns" etc. (Deuteronomy 19:8-9). Now this thing never happened; and
the Holy One does not command in vain. But as for the words of the
prophets, this matter needs no proof, as all their books are full with
this issue."



"Do not imagine that the anointed King must perform miracles and signs
and create new things in the world or resurrect the dead and so on. The
matter is not so: For Rabbi Akiba was a great scholar of the sages of the Mishnah, and he was the assistant-warrior of the king Ben Coziba,
and claimed that he was the anointed king. He and all the Sages of his
generation deemed him the anointed king, until he was killed by sins;
only since he was killed, they knew that he was not. The Sages asked
him neither a miracle nor a sign..."



"And if a king shall stand up from among the House of David, studying
Torah and indulging in commandments like his father David, according to
the written and oral Torah, and he will coerce all Israel to follow it
and to strengthen its weak points, and will fight Hashem's wars, this
one is to be treated as if he were the anointed one. If he succeeded
{and won all nations surrounding him. Old prints and mss.} and built a
Holy Temple in its proper place and gathered the strayed ones of Israel
together, this is indeed the anointed one for certain, and he will mend
the entire world to worship the Lord together, as it is stated: "For
then I shall turn for the nations a clear tongue, to call all in the
Name of the Lord and to worship Him with one shoulder" (Zephaniah
3:9)."



"But if he did not succeed until now, or if he was killed, it becomes
known that he is not this one of whom the Torah had promised us, and he
is indeed like all proper and wholesome kings of the House of David who
died. The Holy One, Blessed Be He, only set him up to try the public by
him, thus: "And from the seekers of wisdom there shall stumble, to
purify among them and to clarify and to brighten until the time of the
ending, for there is yet to the set time" (Daniel 11:35)."



Taken from http://www.aish.com/tishabav/tishaba...in_Judaism.asp



In Judaism, who is the Messiah?

The messiah is a G-d fearing, pious Jew, who is both a great Torah
scholar and a great leader as well. He is a direct descendent of King
David, and will be anointed as the new Jewish King. (In fact, the
Hebrew word for messiah - "Moshiach" - means "anointed one.").

When the messiah comes, there will be a universal recognition of the
truth of Torah and the G-d Who gave that Torah at Mount Sinai. All Jews
will return to the Land of Israel, where they will throw off the yoke
of their enemies and undergo a complete spiritual revival. They will
embrace the faith of their forefathers and dedicate themselves to G-d's
service forever.

They will re-build the Holy Temple, from where the Divine presence will
shine forth, spreading the light of truth, justice, tolerance and peace
throughout the world.



Taken from http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm



The Moshiach

The moshiach will be a great political leader descended from King David
(Jeremiah 23:5). The moshiach is often referred to as "moshiach ben
David" (moshiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law,
and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a
charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be
a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel.
He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah
33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or
other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the
potential to be the moshiach. If the time is right for the messianic
age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the
moshiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of
the moshiach, then that person is not the moshiach.



For a more detailed discussion on the terms Son of God, and Christ. Visit this link:



http://www.answering-christianity.co..._of_yeshua.htm







8- Will you worship Jesus, or the one Jesus worshiped?






One glaring problem the Christians have is that Jesus prayed, and had a
God himself. This logically lets us conclude that Jesus cannot be God.
The logical thing to do is worship and pray to the one Jesus prayed to.
If Jesus told you that he had a God, would you honestly take Jesus as
God? The logical answer is no, but Christians throw all logic out when
it comes to their Bible.





Matthew 26:36-44

36. Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane,
and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray."
37. He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled.
38. Then he said to them, "My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me."
39. Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this  10 Reasons why Jesus is not God Cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
40. Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Could
you men not keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter.
41. "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
42. He went away a second time and prayed, "My Father, if it is not possible for this  10 Reasons why Jesus is not God Cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done."
43. When he came back, he again found them sleeping, because their eyes were heavy.
44. So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, SAYING THE SAME THING.



So are you going worship the one Jesus prayed to? Or are you going to
worship Jesus? Logically you worship the one Jesus prayed to.



Secondly just say you were alive at Jesus’ time and you were with him,
and you knew he prayed to God and so on, would you honestly believe he
is God? Off course not! It gets worse as Jesus himself claims he has a
God:



John 20:16-18 :



16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him,
Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me
not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and
say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God,
and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she
had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her.



Now tell me, if a man came to you and told you he has a God, would you
honestly believe that man is God? No, you would not. Logic tells you if
a man has a God then that man is not God, however Christians through
logic at the window it seems, Christians want to worship Jesus, not the
one Jesus worshiped. Christians want Jesus to be their God; they do not
want Jesus’ God to be their God. What a shame.



So Jesus prays and has a God, how un-Godly is that?
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9- God comes out of a woman? God is a helpless baby?





The very fact that Jesus was given birth, and came out as little
helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus is God. It
is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all
people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and
screaming and being helpless and weak. Such nonsense is insulting to
God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus is not God. How can you claim
that God came out of a woman? Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you
insult God in such a manner, you Christians should be ashamed of
yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God.

Are you actually going to tell me this how God was once? You are
insane! How can you logically claim that God was like this helpless
baby at once?





Let us see what God’s true word, the Noble Quran says on such blasphemies:





002.116
YUSUFALI: They say: "Allah hath begotten a son" :Glory be to Him.-Nay,
to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything
renders worship to Him.



019.035
YUSUFALI: It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should
beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says
to it, "Be", and it is.



017.111
YUSUFALI: Say: "Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no
partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from
humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!"



004.171
YUSUFALI: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion:
Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was
(no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on
Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His
messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for
Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a
son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough
is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.





005.017
YUSUFALI: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ
the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if
His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all
every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion
of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what
He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."



005.076
YUSUFALI: Say: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no
power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth
and knoweth all things."


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10- The God of the Bible comes from incest!



It may come as a shocker to most, but the Bible claims that Jesus comes
from incest. Since Christians claim Jesus is God this means God came
from incest, all you have to do is go look at the family line of Jesus
and see for yourself. What makes this more sad is that Christians do
not even know this information, they claim that you are a liar if you
bring it up, or that you are disgusting etc.



Here is the proof for all to see:



Genesis 38:



1 And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his
brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah.
2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was
Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and
bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4 And she conceived again, and
bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again
conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at
Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his
firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was
wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8 And Judah
said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise
up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be
his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that
he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his
brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore
he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law,
Remain a widow at thy father's house, till Shelah my son be grown: for
he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar
went and dwelt in her father's house.

12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah's wife died; and
Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he
and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying,
Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14 And
she put her widow's garments off from her, and covered her with a vail,
and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to
Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto
him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot;
because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way,
and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew
not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou
give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17 And he said, I will send
thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge,
till thou send it? 18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And
she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine
hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by
him. 19 And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her,
and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And Judah sent the kid by
the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the
woman's hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of that
place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side?
And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22 And he returned to
Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said,
that there was no harlot in this place. 23 And Judah said, Let her take
it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast
not found her.

24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told
Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and
also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her
forth, and let her be burnt. 25 When she was brought forth, she sent to
her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with
child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet,
and bracelets, and staff. 26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She
hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah
my son. And he knew her again no more. 27 And it came to pass in the
time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it
came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and
the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This
came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that,
behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth?
this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30 And
afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his
hand: and his name was called Zarah.





The names of the two kids who resulted out of this sexual encounter between Judah and Tamar were Pharez and Zarah.



Here is Jesus’ lineage according to Matthew 1:



1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son
of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob
begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of
Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat
Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And
Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed
begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat
Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat
Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat
Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias
begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And
Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they
were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to
Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13
And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat
Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat
Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and
Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of
whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations
from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until
the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the
carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.





So as you can see, Jesus’ family line comes down from this sick act
of incest between father and daughter in law, this means the God of the
Christians comes from incest! Such blasphemy is disgusting and utterly
degrading to the true God and Christians should be ashamed of
themselves.




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So as we clearly saw, Jesus cannot be God, if a Christian wants to continue believing Jesus is God, it is their own loss.

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